Hi, I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
> I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America and > was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on is
I almost order something from him but something held me back. I enquired around and no one seemed to know anything about him. I even rang Webwire who had an article on him on their website and they said that they got their information about him from a Carl Hoffmann. I emailed this Carl Hoffmann (it was a yahoo address too) and it took him 2 weeks to return my email and said Donald Yung was not a scam but then tried to get me to pay $5000 to become one of Donald Yung's apprentices. I did notice the same as you did with regard to www.carlos-luconi.com. Also what made me suspicious is that when I enquired to pay via Western Union, the name I was told to put it in was completely different to Donald Yung, he said it was his assistant. Donald Yung told me he was in the back to Columbia too which seems interesting as he was meant to be working with politicans and movie stars.
I have been corresponding with a James Morgan II in Florida. His website is http://www.spellsandmagiccastingservices.com. What makes me trust him is that when I did a reverse search of his phone number - the address was correct! I have spoken to both his wife and himself on numerous occasions as well and he seems genuine and can be very easily contacted. Have a look at the website - it is very detailed. i did a search on the BBB website and found him there and there had not been any complaints about him either.
Where do you live? Would be interested to see if you are in America as I am in Australia. I hope you are not scammed but I eventually got a very bad feeling about Donald Yung. Please let me know how you go.
> Hi, > I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his > website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He > has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names > have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see > results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you > get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
> kitty ha scritto:
>> Hi there
>> I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America >> and >> was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on >> is
> Hi, > I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his > website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He > has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names > have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see > results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you > get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
> kitty ha scritto:
>> Hi there
>> I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America >> and >> was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on >> is
Have you tried this http://www.spellsforum.org/spellcasters-psychics-reviewed/index.php you can see there people complaining of the dragon Spells too sadly I must say that it seems that they are all scam. I consider myself lucky as so far I have waste less than $300. I am trying to convince people who fall into this traps to start complaining. Being united is the only way to stop this liers from robbing us and taking advantages of our personal problems!
Hi Kitty, Yes don't try Dragon Spells. James Morgan tried to call me several times and at that time I didn't have 1000. Then he said it didn't matter that any amount will do, bc time is running out. He kept calling and emailing me...finally he stopeed and got the point. I don't think you should waste your money on them. They might be scams. What' s up with spellforum .org. They filter out their posts. If you trying posting something for Donald Yung that is negative , they won't post it. I tried posting about the carlos Luconi site so everyone could know but it never got posted.
Also, I check zodiac-biz and spellforum website and both their domains come from somewhere in Scottsdale, Arizona/ Texas. You guys can check it out for yourselves at: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp Just type the their website in the search box . Might spellsforum and zodiac be the same person? Also , the email I received specifiaclly from Donald Yung came from Argentina. There are two Ip addresses I have for him 209.191.125.28 this one is from Long Beach California. ANd this IP 200.115.211.177 came from Argentina. If you guys try emailing him post here if you got the same IP information. Free IP website :
> "HI" <krayz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1146421087.363604.132080@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Hi, > > I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his > > website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He > > has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names > > have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see > > results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you > > get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
> > kitty ha scritto:
> >> Hi there
> >> I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America > >> and > >> was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on > >> is
> Have you tried this > http://www.spellsforum.org/spellcasters-psychics-reviewed/index.php > you can see there people complaining of the dragon Spells too > sadly I must say that it seems that they are all scam. > I consider myself lucky as so far I have waste less than $300. I am > trying to convince people who fall into this traps to start > complaining. Being united is the only way to stop this liers from > robbing us and taking advantages of our personal problems!
Good grief! Do people really believe in this? Pay me money and will make your dreams/lust/financial worries come true? This makes Dr. Who look positively boringly normal. Look.. ( ahem).. if you need to know what to do, stick around this news group. YMMV. IMHO n'stuff
-- Jackdaw collector of junk, trivia and bright twinkly things.
HI wrote: > Hi Kitty, > Yes don't try Dragon Spells. James Morgan tried to call me several > times and at that time I didn't have 1000. Then he said it didn't > matter that any amount will do, bc time is running out. He kept calling > and emailing me...finally he stopeed and got the point. I don't think > you should waste your money on them. They might be scams. > What' s up with spellforum .org. They filter out their posts. If you > trying posting something for Donald Yung that is negative , they won't > post it. I tried posting about the carlos Luconi site so everyone could > know but it never got posted.
Everybody already know about "Hyattspe...@yahoogroups.com"? Its 'root work', or folk magick, "hoodoo" and such but i find it very interesting.
It is not a 'chatty' type of list, strictly formatted about the "Hyatt" material but a subscription to the group brings daily doses of Hoodoo to your in box. --- JL
> Also, I check zodiac-biz and spellforum website and both their domains > come from somewhere in Scottsdale, Arizona/ Texas. You guys can check > it out for yourselves at: > http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp > Just type the their website in the search box . Might spellsforum and > zodiac be the same person? > Also , the email I received specifiaclly from Donald Yung came from > Argentina. There are two Ip addresses I have for him 209.191.125.28 > this one is from Long Beach California. ANd this IP 200.115.211.177 > came from Argentina. If you guys try emailing him post here if you got > the same IP information. Free IP website :
>>>Hi, >>>I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his >>>website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He >>>has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names >>>have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see >>>results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you >>>get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
>>>kitty ha scritto:
>>>>Hi there
>>>>I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America >>>>and >>>>was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on >>>>is
> Everybody already know about "Hyattspe...@yahoogroups.com"? Its 'root > work', or folk magick, "hoodoo" and such but i find it very interesting.
> It is not a 'chatty' type of list, strictly formatted about the "Hyatt" > material but a subscription to the group brings daily doses of Hoodoo to > your in box. > --- > JL
And by that i mean:) if you can not find a good commercial vendor you learn to make your own. Perhaps, read the literature of people who have done just that? For inspiration if nothing else. --- JL
S+<(~..~)>+B <toas...@centralpets.com> wrote: > I think it is very suspicious why spellsforum won't post all our real > comments just the positve ones! > ~~~ > Sure is. I tried 5 times to post about Terrible Tori and they refuse > to post it. Looks like spellform.org is another scam. The ones who > run the site must be getting paid by what they call "the most > appreciated spell casters & psychics online" or the posters work for > Tori. > After reading all the now obviously fake good reviews about Tori, I > ordered an $85 reading from her which was a joke. She tried to lure me > into ordering a $195 spell which would solve all my problems. Right > there was the warning that she is a fake. She also refused a refund. > I also emailed the bunch who run the site and asked them why they > refuse to post my bad reviewS of Tori, of course I never got an answer. > Ya can't trust anyone.
And *this* is why the Trad to which I belong has a prohibition against charging for Work done. We regard it as one way to tell the pros from the scammers....
Blessed be, Baird
-- Modkin of soc.religion.paganism Modstaff of alt.religion.wicca.moderated Newstaff, Inc. at newstaff.com
Oh, that one is hilarious! She's about fifty-something, judging by the picture, and yet she had a "wiccan grandmother" - isn't it *amazing* how many "wiccan grannies" there were, before Wicca was even a twinkle in GBG's eye? But she's also a "voodoo priestess" offering luv'n'lite spells that won't hurt anyone, and if the spell doesn't work she'll refund your money *or re-cast the spell*.
And I bet the customer doesn't get to choose which ....
> Oh, that one is hilarious! She's about fifty-something, judging by the > picture, and yet she had a "wiccan grandmother" - isn't it *amazing* how > many "wiccan grannies" there were, before Wicca was even a twinkle in > GBG's eye? But she's also a "voodoo priestess" offering luv'n'lite spells > that won't hurt anyone, and if the spell doesn't work she'll refund your > money *or re-cast the spell*.
> And I bet the customer doesn't get to choose which ....
Whatever you think of its owners, the website www.luckymojo.com has a *huge* collection of spells. They're not my personal cup of tea, but someone mind find the site useful.
I would like to let you know that I have paid money for Donald's service. I should know if he is real or not around the 13th of May. The one thing is he asks for 1/2 payment when you start working with him and you don't have to pay the balance until it works. However, if you're curious - contact me after the 13th of this month - travelga...@excite.com
I did find out that Donald's website and the spellforum website could be linked together by one person. However, I also did some research on Carlos Luconi and talked with some professionals in the field of parapsychics. They know of him and they confirmed that they know who he is and that he is a magician and psychic. His credentials are legit. None of the professionals had ever heard of Donald Yung or knew anything about him. I contacted Carlos and explained the Donald Yung thing to him. Carlos tried to get posted on the spellforum website and he has received no response. Carlos also provided me proof of his identity and his credentials. He is willing to provide whatever documentation you need in order to prove he is real.
> I almost order something from him but something held me back. I enquired > around and no one seemed to know anything about him. I even rang Webwire who > had an article on him on their website and they said that they got their > information about him from a Carl Hoffmann. I emailed this Carl Hoffmann (it > was a yahoo address too) and it took him 2 weeks to return my email and said > Donald Yung was not a scam but then tried to get me to pay $5000 to become > one of Donald Yung's apprentices. I did notice the same as you did with > regard to www.carlos-luconi.com. Also what made me suspicious is that when I > enquired to pay via Western Union, the name I was told to put it in was > completely different to Donald Yung, he said it was his assistant. Donald > Yung told me he was in the back to Columbia too which seems interesting as > he was meant to be working with politicans and movie stars.
> I have been corresponding with a James Morgan II in Florida. His website is > http://www.spellsandmagiccastingservices.com. What makes me trust him is > that when I did a reverse search of his phone number - the address was > correct! I have spoken to both his wife and himself on numerous occasions as > well and he seems genuine and can be very easily contacted. Have a look at > the website - it is very detailed. i did a search on the BBB website and > found him there and there had not been any complaints about him either.
> Where do you live? Would be interested to see if you are in America as I am > in Australia. I hope you are not scammed but I eventually got a very bad > feeling about Donald Yung. Please let me know how you go.
> regards > kitty
> "HI" <krayz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1146421087.363604.132080@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Hi, > > I actullay was wondering the same thing. The only thing he has on his > > website is his email. And check this out ....www.carlos-luconi.com. He > > has the same details of his life like like Donald Yung only some names > > have been changed. I have ordered a spell and paid 1500 and will see > > results in 2-4 wks, but I hope I was get scam again. Let me know if you > > get anything from him too. You can email me at krayz...@yahoo.com.
> > kitty ha scritto:
> >> Hi there
> >> I am from Sydney and I have made contact with Donald Yung from America > >> and > >> was wondering if you knew anything about him. The website I found him on > >> is
Hi, Recently I gave money to Donald to help me cast a spell. The information he gave of his assistant is in Argentina and his name is Osvaldo Jorge Marchioni. Was that the name he gave you too?
> Hi, > Recently I gave money to Donald to help me cast a spell. The information > he gave of his assistant is in Argentina and his name is Osvaldo Jorge > Marchioni. Was that the name he gave you too?
I actually haven't received a response recently from Donald. I am supposed to have results after the 13th of May full moon. I asked him if the results would be sudden or something that manifests slowly. But, he hasn't answered my email yet. With the results that have been posted, I have high hopes in him. But, then again...this is through the internet and you never know what can happen.
That's weird cause that's the name that Gaiia gave me when I ordered a love spell from her. But, afterwords, I emaild Donald and he gave me a name in Sweden (jens Johannson) Gaiia gave me that name Osvaldo Jorge Marchioni. Could all of posts in spellsforum.org be fake? I spent more than 4000 dollars on Gaiia and Donald for that same case. Donald is going to cast my spell tomorrow. I hope I found this website before I gave him the money.
> That's weird cause that's the name that Gaiia gave me when I ordered a > love spell from her. But, afterwords, I emaild Donald and he gave me a > name in Sweden (jens Johannson) Gaiia gave me that name Osvaldo Jorge > Marchioni. Could all of posts in spellsforum.org be fake? I spent more > than 4000 dollars on Gaiia and Donald for that same case. Donald is going > to cast my spell tomorrow. I hope I found this website before I gave him > the money.
Is it just me or is this thread and ones very similar to it appearing in many groups recently as well as here seem to be thinly veiled spam for the services provided? Or perhaps some one 'fishing' for a response that could then be prosecuted as fraud.
Suddenly people i have never seen or don't recall are posting very similar stuff and it seems to me almost an endorsement of the services talked about. An encouragement to spend large sums of money on spell casting. What ever it is it seems less than honest to me.
This is just a 'feeling' on my part and i apologize if i have offended anybody. --- JL
> > That's weird cause that's the name that Gaiia gave me when I ordered a > > love spell from her. But, afterwords, I emaild Donald and he gave me a > > name in Sweden (jens Johannson) Gaiia gave me that name Osvaldo Jorge > > Marchioni. Could all of posts in spellsforum.org be fake? I spent more > > than 4000 dollars on Gaiia and Donald for that same case. Donald is going > > to cast my spell tomorrow. I hope I found this website before I gave him > > the money.
> Is it just me or is this thread and ones very similar to it appearing in > many groups recently as well as here seem to be thinly veiled spam for > the services provided? Or perhaps some one 'fishing' for a response that > could then be prosecuted as fraud.
> Suddenly people i have never seen or don't recall are posting very > similar stuff and it seems to me almost an endorsement of the services > talked about. An encouragement to spend large sums of money on spell > casting. What ever it is it seems less than honest to me.
> This is just a 'feeling' on my part and i apologize if i have offended > anybody.
To me, as a poster and member of ARWM, the thread is not really what I'd call 'high signal to noise'. But as a Mod, I haven't seen any message posted to this thread that breached the charter (spells being On Topic I guess). This thread is starting to dance near the "Ad Hominem" and "Intolerance and Religious Preaching" restrictions, but I have yet to see one go across the line. Other mods may disagree with me, but I tend to be of the "if in doubt, let it through" principle, because I figure y'all are grownups and would prefer to let a bit of rubbish through than to censor a genuine post. Again, other mods may see it differently, and YMMV too.
i certainly am not working for anyone except myself. I subscribed to this newsgroup to ask for help in verifying if Donald Yung and Voodoo Master Ivana are for real as it is very hard trying to find anything concrete anything over the internet. also as I live in Australia, which is a long way away, I needed some assistance.
> Is it just me or is this thread and ones very similar to it appearing in > many groups recently as well as here seem to be thinly veiled spam for the > services provided? Or perhaps some one 'fishing' for a response that could > then be prosecuted as fraud.
> Suddenly people i have never seen or don't recall are posting very similar > stuff and it seems to me almost an endorsement of the services talked > about. An encouragement to spend large sums of money on spell casting. > What ever it is it seems less than honest to me.
> This is just a 'feeling' on my part and i apologize if i have offended > anybody. > --- > JL
> Hi, > Recently I gave money to Donald to help me cast a spell. The information > he gave of his assistant is in Argentina and his name is Osvaldo Jorge > Marchioni. Was that the name he gave you too?
> Is it just me or is this thread and ones very similar to it appearing in > many groups recently as well as here seem to be thinly veiled spam for > the services provided? Or perhaps some one 'fishing' for a response that > could then be prosecuted as fraud. > Suddenly people i have never seen or don't recall are posting very > similar stuff and it seems to me almost an endorsement of the services > talked about. An encouragement to spend large sums of money on spell > casting. What ever it is it seems less than honest to me.
So far as I can tell, it's perfectly honest; other Modstaff seem to agree with me, since I see articles in that thread on the newsgroup that I know I didn't approve. We *do* read 'em, y' know, and check out urls that are mentioned.
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Blessed be, Baird
-- Modkin of soc.religion.paganism Modstaff of alt.religion.wicca.moderated Newstaff, Inc. at newstaff.com
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